I'm going to look into it a little further, I'm more surprised than anything else that nobody else has done it. Using the 2003 Cobra hydroboost also aids in moving the engine back to the firewall. Renegade Race Engines 4.6 SOHC: Cobra Crank, Manley Rods, Custom coated Diamond Pistons >10.5:1 cr w/valve reliefs, PnP npi heads, Comp Cams, 70mm TB, Maurader Intake Assembly w/80mmMAF, 24# inj, Walbro 190lph, FRPP shortys, custom 2.25 dual exh, SCT Xcal2, Dirtyd0g TC; RoadmasterTranz Police Duty 4R70W (mild J-mod). Filed Under: Ford Engine Swaps, Ford Modular Engines, Ford Mustang, Ford Tech Tips, Ford Torino, 2023 DiY Ford. As far as track width, it's over 3" narrower than the Crown Vic front end as well. Go here to check out what weve been up to. Dave Cruikshank is a lifelong car enthusiast and an Editor at Power Automedia. Ford made it increasingly difficult to mix and match the wiring harnesses because of various options on the vehicle. Paul did tell me that it took awhile to tune the PCM from the mustang and he spliced a stock 6.2l and 4.6l 3v harness together. Major changes to the engine may require a change to the size of the mass air meter. If you cant get the entire donor car, try to get as much as you can: computer, all the wiring harnesses, throttle pedal (if using throttle-by-wire), fuel pumps, and controllers. About 1999, the Passive Anti-Theft System (PATS) was improved, and installing aftermarket components such as instrumentation became difficult. This also allowed the T-56 shifter to protrude into the original shifter hole without any modifications. The air conditioning is adapted to the original 1967 A/C box. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Because they all have the same height at the edge of the pistons, gotcha. why not use the computer and harness from the 6.2? In a returnless fuel system, the PCM uses this pressure transducer mounted on the fuel rail to measure the fuel pressure at the engine. Black_Chrome: If only I had a mercOh wait, its still sitting out at the farm frown "This holiday season give that special woman in your life something she deserves. Dec 30, 2015 3v conversion is not possible at the time, the junkyard already sold the pcm and wiring harness. Fuel injectors, fuel rail. We swap the whole drivetrain in 1 day, next video will go over wiring up US Shift Quick 6 computer! The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. see I don't know how the PCM works or how it turns on at first that's why I just asked about using a 3V control pack from ford. 96 F150 5.0 Firing OrderFiring order 1996 ford f-150 5. Tuning an engine is a science, and most companies who sell the programmers work with trained tuners to maximize the performance and efficiency of the engine. The fuel ring from a donor tank was grafted to the top of the tank and a custom baffle was installed for the in-tank pump. Read this over, has all the info needed, use your stock 4.6 mounts. During the EEC-V era, Ford transitioned away from coil pack ignition to a coil-on-plug (COP) system. Wiring the system is the most difficult part of any swap, and with all the changes Ford has made over the years and the upgrades to computers, it is a source of apprehension to most builders. Typical installations do not use all the wiring from a factory harness, and to save space and weight you will be pulling some wires out of the harness. Im looking to do the same setup with a 6.2 in a crown vic..Now A question. If you plan on using the factory computer and wiring, here are the requirements: It is best to have a complete donor car; it gets very expensive running back to your dealer every time you are missing a sensor. Make the donor look like the original (electrically). I haven't heard od a DOHC 5.4 being installed in a CV, probably because its too wide, but would a 3V 5.4 fit? Most error codes are for emissions systems, but there are codes assigned to manufacturer specific problems. If you have a Coyote engine, therefore, you should strongly consider an aftermarket or Ford Control Pack system, which will allow you to tune your engine according to your application. SVT FOX thinks I have a mustang with a 6.2l in it. and used safety glass to fill in the rear windows. Build your own custom newsletter with the content you love from EngineLabs, directly to your inbox, absolutely FREE! New stock 1967 fuel tanks are being fabricated out of stainless steel, and this was the choice for modifications for the 2003 dual fuel pump. New Daily 2016 Dodge Charger R/T Road and track, purchase with 16K now 23K after 3 months. preferred-parts1 (1,509) 99.4%. For this, you need a scan tool, which costs more than the error code readers, depending on what level of features your scan tool possesses. And the same goes for the wiring; you may have to extend, trim, or tuck away wiring that doesnt quite fit. The computer is already programmed to fire without the PATS system and it can be tuned just like any other Ford computer. Book Hotel VICTORIA, Nuremberg on Tripadvisor: See 1,625 traveler reviews, 539 candid photos, and great deals for Hotel VICTORIA, ranked #2 of 130 hotels in Nuremberg and rated 4.5 of 5 at Tripadvisor. I would imagine with tuning it has to be good for some low buck HP. unfortunately im on workers comp waiting on my trial in October but I will have the car up and running before February next year. This customer opted for a Mustang II front-end conversion from Rod and Custom Motorsports. the 6.2l uses different sensors for the crank and cam pick-ups then what the 4.6l 2v uses. Nuremberg (Nrnberg), Bavaria's second-largest city and the unofficial capital of Franconia, is an energetic place where the nightlife is intense and the beer is as dark as coffee. Ford also has used some creative routing for some of the wires, requiring you to get all the wiring harnesses from your donor car. With this level of communication, you are going to hear your tuner or mechanic talk about specific terms. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . Ford F-100 / F-Series Crown Vic Swap Adjustable Motor Mounts for Ford FE v8 352/360/390/427. Get about the same power but the Marauder gets much worse fuel economy. Rack n pinion steering, a front sway bar, disc brakes and probaly handles a lot better . Easy?!?!?! why not use the computer and harness from the 6.2? The 4.6L SOHC 2-valve engine was the fleet engine of choice for taxicabs and police cars as well as hundreds of thousands of Crown Vics, trucks, vans, and Mustangs, they're usually easy to find and cheap to buy. idk really. Yes it will breathe more than a 2v but you're taking away all the adjustability of the performance, so whats the point? With this mode, you or your technician using a scanner can turn on and off specific items in the car. Ford Forum is a community to discuss all things Ford. 9. A custom-made transmission crossmember was fabricated to hold the transmission to the firewall extensions. Sorry 450 hp is modded coyote territory. Click the button below and we will send you an exclusive deal on this book. the 5.4 just needs air. they actually have forum users that don't talk **** and are friendly to people. Any 99-up 4.6L 2V (Truck, van, SUV, granny car, mustang) will almost be a direct replacement meaning you may have to swap a couple parts from your old motor. According to the wiring gurus, Were proud to introduce a complete fuel injection wiring system for 2005 to 2006 and 2007-2011 Ford Crown Victoria 4.6-liter engines. Why not just use a 3v + manual + pcm out of a mustang? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. With the factory PCM, any time you change something on the engine, you need to reprogram the PCM to accommodate the change. About the time the VI-VCT engines came out, Ford improved the PATS system to the point that aftermarket performance tuners found it difficult to bypass the system. Circuits from the engine area and interior terminate here, and if you plan on using the original harness, you need to get all of the special items like this. This is a Smart Junction Box (SJB) from a 2007 Shelby GT500. or some sort of power adder. OBDII rules dictate a standard set of PIDs that all scan tools can read; Ford has some proprietary ones that may or may not be readable by non-Ford scan tools. A forum community dedicated to Mustang and Ford Performance owners and enthusiasts. The first is a basic low-cost code reader, the second is scan tools and data loggers, and the third is programmers. The Passive Anti-Theft System (PATS) has evolved over the years and the newest system is now the biggest hurdle to overcome in an engine swap. The biggest challenges to installing the engine are the width and height. Ford introduced variable camshaft timing starting in 2005. Ford CROWN VICTORIA 5.0 LTR V/8 Cyl OHV V/8 Fits 82-97 Casting No: D7OE D8OE E7TE F3TE Additional Applications: Ford - TRUCK, F SERIES 1982 to 1997 Mercury - MARQUIS 1982 to 1997 Notes: 302 V/8 Price: $235.00 VIEW DETAILS Ford CROWN VICTORIA 5.8 LTR V/8 Cyl OHV WINDSOR Fits 69-78 Casting No: C90E D5UE Additional Applications: harness all at once. This information is useful not only for drag racers with laptops; familiarity with the capabilities of your engines computer system and ways to optimize your engine swap will help you meet the goals for your project. He currently owns a '95 Corvette, '76 Cadillac Seville, '99 LS1 Trans Am and big old Ford Van. If it's a 3 valve it will be straight. This required a set of custom fabricated mounts to place the engine back far enough. The block itself is the same but the metal is not and the oil location is different and I'm sure there are other little differences in the two blocks. Zlib compression enabled. _____ Best time 13.079 @ 105 1.8 60 . Free shipping. Supercharger, Turbocharger, Nitrous Oxide & Water/Methanol Injection Engine Swaps 7.3L Gasoline V8 Engine 6.2L V8 5.0L Coyote EcoBoost (all engine sizes) Modular V10 (6.8l) Modular V8 (4.6L, 5.4L) Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W) Big Block V8 - 385 Series (6.1/370, 7.0/429, 7.5/460) Ford V6 Error codes are primarily usedfor emissions issues, and when your PCM senses a problem, it stores a DTC (Diagnostic Trouble Code) and turns on the check engine light on the dash. Those cars have stability control, PATS, all sorts of other OBDII sensors and whatnot. 1929 wheat penny. The DTC follows the industry standard OBDII numbering system. - '89 GT. Dazed in Conufsed V8 is working on a 3v swap last I heard. Make sure that the system you choose is legal. An example would be a two-stage fan relay module. 3v conversion is not possible at the time, the junkyard already sold the pcm and wiring harness. Keep us posted if you go for it! Most MAF systems use sequential fuel injection, which means the fuel injectors are only firing once per cycle, making them more efficient than some speed density systems that fire every revolution (also called waste spark). Here are some of the bigger hurdles to consider if using a Ford wiring harness and computer. The following are brief synopses of the Ford computer systems: The EEC-IV computer was installed on the earliest modular engines in full-size Ford cars. Zlib compression enabled. Currently, the best choice for operating the Coyote engine and later engines with VCT is the Ford Performance Control Pack. seems like a ton of work and by no means is this an "easy" project. Once you have chosen an engine, it is time to select a computer and wiring harness to control the engine. It would also open you up to a newer style intake manifold. You need to program around the PATS system, something most aftermarket companies say they can do (but check with your tuner). They didn't come that way as a regular production option. It can be set up for a factory returnless fuel system or an aftermarket fuel pump with return line. Nuff said. So this V10 Swap will work in any of these as they are all Panther's. If you want to use only the engine, an aftermarket computer may be your best option. 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It is possible to run your factory computer using an aftermarket wiring harness. CrownVic.net is a forum and information center dedicated to the Ford Crown Victoria and its siblings: Mercury Grand Marquis, Mercury Marauder, and Lincoln Town Car. You can choose between an aftermarket or the factory system that originally came with your engine. cams, sheet metal intake I made, injectors I cant remember the poundage though, billet fuel rails, 100mm tb, cam covers that I made. Buy It Now. Which sounds to me like the 2V head is the limiting factor. A typical vintage muscle car had 5 to 10 fused circuits. The TBW throttle body/servo is only a minor issue. Get the body harness (the other 70 pin connector on the PCM) so you can cut that up to fit the crown vic. The major advantage is vct and Im not sure if its worth it. With the introduction of the Ford Control Pack, it has taken over as the best and easiest-to-use computer control system. I have no idea what engine I'm going to use. Do I stick with the 4.6 2v? These systems were unusual in layout because they had some extra relay boxes, and this makes the conversion a bit cumbersome compared to later wiring harnesses. After using the TR-3650 for a few years and going back to the 4R70W during the winter, I really want to stick with the manual. I will have a cam sprocket made for the driver side cam with the pip and a crank timing gear so I can use the crank trigger and cam sensor. An aftermarket stainless-steel stock tank was modified to accept the 2003 fuel pump assembly and locate the fuel pump at the correct height. The 2v with PI heads is a an exccelent power making motor. All rights reserved. The factory supercharged 2003 Cobra engine uses a special dual fuel pump to handle the extra fuel needs. http://www.mylrs.com/blogs/lrs/archive/2009/01/12/Ford-Racing-4.6L-3-Valve-Fox-Body-Swap-Part-1.aspx, http://www.f150online.com/forums/v8-engines/398547-5-4-3v-swap-01-finally.html, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.5.9. The long blacks are the SAME. (Photo Courtesy Classic Resto Garage). Some systems computers can be reprogrammed via the Internet through built in Wi-Fi or through a laptop. The difficulty with 5.4s making HP is because they have the same bore as a 4.6, but a longer stroke. but later on in the months I decided to just work with what I have already. Note how far back the engine is placed. Electronic speed control is tucked under the driver-side splash shield. This build-in-progress is a 1967 Mustang coupe and it is receiving the full pro/street build out with a complete running driveline from a 2003 Ford Mustang Cobra donor car. (Photo Courtesy SCT). i have benn told that factory 6.2 heads flow just over 300cfm. dedicated to the 2003+ Crown Vic swap in F100 specifically to the 53-56 but pre 53 and post 57 are welcome. They are available in book or digital format for your computer. I will PM you my user name and forum. If you get a 3V computer, you can run the VVT and shut up these nay-sayers. The PCM won't be able to tell the difference between the old and new. These chips, depending on their complexity, can store multiple tunes for different uses (e.g., driving to the dragstrip and changing the tune for your passes; changing the tune on your truck when you are pulling for max torque). (It also contains headlight wiring and a bunch of other stuff you will not need, but get it!) 14.46 @ 95.59 / 14.50 @ 95.91 tuned by Darrin at BC Automotive. To get the pro/street look the factory fender flares have been widened 112 inches in the back and 1 inch in the front. If you eliminate some unneeded circuits, you may be able to patch your original wiring harness systems, such as the lighting circuits, into unused fuses on your new system and consolidate. Ford is very good at keeping the wiring colors consistent, but it doesnt really want you interchanging harnesses. The PCM controls the voltage applied to the pump and reads the pressure via a pressure transducer mounted on the fuel rail. Ford used speed density on engines from 1986 to mid-1989, when they converted to mass air systems. As more gadgets continued to consume computer resources, the computer needed to evolve. The first is a basic low-cost code reader, the second is scan tools and data loggers, and the third is programmers. (Photo Courtesy Ford Performance Parts). If you want to drop a Blue Oval Mod Motor into your Mustang, T-Bird, or Rod and keep it all FoMoCo, Ron Francis Wiring has you covered. Eaton M112, 3.4 Billetflow upper, Accufab SBTB + Plenum, Tremec T-56 Magnum, 4.10's, Stainless Works LT's, 2.5" Exhaust W/ Borla Stingers, FX-R projectors, Addco F/R swaybars, Stainless Works LT's, Stainless Works catback, Mo's tune, JLT, Evolve CAI + AlphaN Tune, Dinan strut bar + rear swaybar, Stoptech ST40BBK, UUC Shifter, http://www.modulardepot.com/articlesp.php?aid=52, Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.5.9. Through the scanner you can turn on the low and high fan outputs on the Ford system before you fire up your engine and know you will have the cooling fans on first start. I thought it would be much simpler to use the 4.6l harness and use all of the sensors and stuff that way I can keep everything simple and straight forward that way all I had to do was have the PCM tuned/flashed for the bigger motor. We will safeguard your e-mail and only send content you request. Like with the Mustang in Black (see Chapter 2), this owner wanted to take full advantage of all the capabilities of the newer Cobra such as ABS, modern cruise control, and returnless fuel injection. The stock fuel pump controller was mounted down in the driver-side quarter panel. Purchase the tools you need to successfully lengthen and shorten wires, or remove and install pins.
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